How are Hinduism and Sikhism related, considering they both originated in Punjab, India?

My consciousness does not go out wandering. My mind has become crippled. ||1|| Pause ||

One Universal Creator God. By The Grace Of The True Guru:

ਕਹੁ ਕਬੀਰ ਇਹ ਕਹੀਐ ਕਾਹਿ ॥

Why are terrible, boring art pieces done by famous people worth so much while beautiful pieces done by amateurs are worthless?

Look within your heart, for there you will find both Karim and Ram;

Actually, this part of the Ang 326 is widely used by McSikhs to show that Sikhism considers Hindu pilgrimages as useless and thus drives home the point again that the “religion” has got NOTHING to do with Hinduism.

ਮਰਨੁ ਭਇਆ ਮਗਹਰ ਕੀ ਬਾਸੀ ॥੩॥

Is it legal for an employer to ask why you are taking time off from work?

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Here ਨਿਰਗੁਣ is Nirgun and not just lord. This is just another example to show that Kabir himself continued in the NIRGUN BHAKTI path.

then who is there to know what happens without?

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ਗਉੜੀ ਕਬੀਰ ਜੀ ਪੰਚਪਦੇ ॥

From Guru Granth Sahib ji - Ang 1195

I have searched through all the Vedas and the Puraanas.

Are there any guys, crossdressers, or transgender girls here who wear tampons?

Sadhna (a Muslim butcher) and

As long as the mind is filled with the desire for heaven,

ਮਰਤੀ ਬਾਰ ਮਗਹਰਿ ਉਠਿ ਆਇਆ ॥੨॥

How can parents identify and address early signs of racial bias in young children?

ਮੇਰਾ ਚਿਤੁ ਨ ਚਲੈ ਮਨੁ ਭਇਓ ਪੰਗੁ ॥੧॥ ਰਹਾਉ ॥

But we have actually seen how much Kabir is also rooted in the Vedantic concept of “supreme realization” but in a non-mainstream path.

ਕਬੀਰ ਨਿਰਗੁਣ ਨਾਮ ਨ ਰੋਸੁ ॥

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Where millions of Vishnus bow their heads, where millions of Brahmas are reading the Vedas,

ਸੋ ਬ੍ਰਹਮੁ ਬਤਾਇਓ ਗੁਰ ਮਨ ਹੀ ਮਾਹਿ ॥੧॥

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How can someone effectively handle a targeted individual?

ਕਾਸੀ ਮਗਹਰ ਸਮ ਬੀਚਾਰੀ ॥

I do not perform Hindu worship services, nor do I offer the Muslim prayers.

Ramanandacharya was a 14th-century Hindu Vaishnava devotional poet saint who amalgamated Advaita with Vaishnava Bhakti. He was the pioneer in validating NIRGUN and SAGUN Bhakti as parallel paths.

What made you recently say to yourself, “Wait. Really?”

ਏਕ ਦਿਵਸ ਮਨ ਭਈ ਉਮੰਗ ॥

ਕਹੁ ਗੁਰ ਗਜ ਸਿਵ ਸਭੁ ਕੋ ਜਾਨੈ ॥

If Ram be within the image which you find upon your pilgrimage,

Have you ever accidentally seen your mother-in-law doing something that was private to her?

Kabir is the child of Allah and of Ram: He is my Guru, He is my Pir.

— Kabir, II.57, Translated by Rabindranath Tagore

ਮੁਆ ਕਬੀਰੁ ਰਮਤ ਸ੍ਰੀ ਰਾਮੈ ॥੫॥੧੫॥

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Meeting with the Guru, my Spiritual Teacher, I realize God, my Lord and Master. ||5||3||

We have searched the turaki Dharam (Turk's religion, Islam), these teachers throw many thunderbolts,

ਰਾਮਾਨੰਦ ਸੁਆਮੀ ਰਮਤ ਬ੍ਰਹਮ ॥

What would happen if the Earth stopped spinning for one minute?

Let’s look at the most used verse by McSikhs to show that Sikhs are neither Hindus nor Muslims.

NOW…

The influence of Kabir is significant on Sikhism. The following Bani from Ang 1136 is attributed to GURU ARJAN DEV but if you observe at the end you can see that he was talking in the spirit of Sant Kabir.

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Now that my time to die has come, I have come to dwell at Magahar! ||3||

The Word of the Guru's Shabad eradicates the karma of millions of past actions. ||3||1||

Guru Nanak (right) and Bhai Mardana (foreground) with Bhagat Kabir (left). This painting is found in the B-40 Janamsakhi, written and painted in 1733. The painting was made by Alam Chand Raj

What is the experience of wearing a school uniform every day? Do people typically get used to it or dislike it?

These morons know nothing, they wander about in ignorance,

ਏਕ ਨਿਰੰਕਾਰ ਲੇ ਰਿਦੈ ਨਮਸਕਾਰਉ ॥੩॥

Says Kabeer, this is what I say:

Is it painful for men to wear bras, panties, and tampons?

ਹਜ ਕਾਬੈ ਜਾਉ ਨ ਤੀਰਥ ਪੂਜਾ ॥

ੴ ਸਤਿਗੁਰ ਪ੍ਰਸਾਦਿ ॥

If God be within the mosque, then to whom does this world belong?

ਬਹੁਤੁ ਬਰਸ ਤਪੁ ਕੀਆ ਕਾਸੀ ॥

Let's look at the views of Sant Kabir

The young and the old drink milk pudding, but these fools eat the cow's body.

ਮੁਆ ਕਬੀਰੁ ਰਮਤ ਸ੍ਰੀ ਰਾਮੈ

You have cut through all my confusion and doubt.

I left Benares - I had little common sense. ||1|| Pause ||

ਓਛੀ ਭਗਤਿ ਕੈਸੇ ਉਤਰਸਿ ਪਾਰੀ ॥੪॥

From where did the word Maya come? Isn’t it a typical Vedantic concept discussed profoundly in Advaita? It definitely isn’t a concept pioneered by Kabir or even his teacher Ramanandacharya! It is ultimately from Sanatana Dharma!

ਘਸਿ ਚੰਦਨ ਚੋਆ ਬਹੁ ਸੁਗੰਧ ॥

I am not a Hindu, nor am I a Muslim.

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I am not a Hindu, nor am I a Muslim.

Without looking into one's heart, how can one reach paradise?

ਜਬ ਲਗੁ ਮਨਿ ਬੈਕੁੰਠ ਕੀ ਆਸ ॥

Gauree, Kabeer Jee, Panch-Padas:

ਜਹਾ ਜਾਈਐ ਤਹ ਜਲ ਪਖਾਨ ॥

ਕਹੁ ਕਬੀਰ ਇਹੁ ਕੀਆ ਵਖਾਨਾ ॥

Ravidas (a chamar shoemaker)

How can they kill the mother, whose milk they drink like that of a wet nurse?

Bhagat Kabir ji / Raag Gauri / / Guru Granth Sahib ji - Ang 326

That God showed me the Guru, within my own mind. ||1||

Wherever I go, I find water and stones.

Raamaanand's Lord and Master is the All-pervading Lord God.

ਸਗਲ ਜਨਮੁ ਸਿਵ ਪੁਰੀ ਗਵਾਇਆ ॥

ਨਾ ਹਮ ਹਿੰਦੂ ਨ ਮੁਸਲਮਾਨ ॥

Because in my previous life, I did not practice penance and intense meditation. ||1||

We can see that great saints like Kabir and Ravidas etc… descended from the Ramananda sampradaya which is still the largest ascetic order in India.

— Kabir, III.2, Translated by Rabindranath Tagore

At the time of my death, I moved to Magahar. ||2||

Sain (a barber)

You are totally pervading and permeating in all.

Bhagat Kabir ji / Raag Gauri / / Guru Granth Sahib ji - Ang 325

ਬੇਦ ਪੁਰਾਨ ਸਭ ਦੇਖੇ ਜੋਇ ॥

That Kabeer died chanting the Lord's Name. ||5||15||

Kabir, Ravidas and ultimately the NINE SIKH GURUS are a product of this very Sant Sampraday founded by Ramanandacharya!

Says Kabeer, unto whom should I tell this?

ਤਜੀ ਲੇ ਬਨਾਰਸ ਮਤਿ ਭਈ ਥੋਰੀ ॥੧॥ ਰਹਾਉ ॥

We can understand that Kabir despite being in favor of formless worship was very much embedded in the Dharmik fold but always preached in the spirit of the transcendental nature of Brahman to the point that HE LOST THE DISTINCTION BETWEEN HINDU AND MUSLIM.

— Kabir, Ramaini 1, Translated by David Lorenzen

I would go there, only if the Lord were not here. ||2||

I went to God's place, and worshipped Him there.

Where should I go? My home is filled with bliss.

For a superficial McSikh who is interested only in separation and not enlightenment the views of Kabir can be easily shown as a denouncement of Hindu practices.

Recklessly they display boundless pride while explaining their own aims, they kill cows.

ਕੈਸੇ ਬੂਝੈ ਜਬ ਮੋਹਿਆ ਹੈ ਮਾਇਆ ॥੧॥ ਰਹਾਉ ॥

Now here in this verse

Says Kabeer, the Guru and Ganaysha and Shiva all know

ਸਾਧਸੰਗਤਿ ਬੈਕੁੰਠੈ ਆਹਿ ॥੪॥੧੦॥

ਗੁਰ ਕਾ ਸਬਦੁ ਕਾਟੈ ਕੋਟਿ ਕਰਮ ॥੩॥੧॥

Kaashi and Magahar - I consider them the same.

ਊਹਾਂ ਤਉ ਜਾਈਐ ਜਉ ਈਹਾਂ ਨ ਹੋਇ ॥੨॥

I am like a fish out of water,

ਸਤਿਗੁਰ ਮੈ ਬਲਿਹਾਰੀ ਤੋਰ ॥

Let’s see what Gurbani has about Ramanandacharya’s views.

There the streams of light flow in all directions, few are the men who can cross to that shore!

I do not make pilgrimages to Mecca, nor do I worship at Hindu sacred shrines.

I wasted my whole life in the city of Shiva;

My body and breath of life belong to Allah - to Raam - the God of both. ||4||

ਤੂ ਪੂਰਿ ਰਹਿਓ ਹੈ ਸਭ ਸਮਾਨ ॥

Raamaanand's Lord and Master is the All-pervading Lord God.

There is a reason why I mention ROOTED and thus NOT implying that it belongs to one of the numerous sects in Sanatana Dharma like Shaivism, Vaishnavism, Shaktism, Smartism etc…

Where the demi-gods and the munis are unnumbered, where millions of Saraswatis, goddess of music play the vina,

Again we see that the originator of this Sant Sampraday himself talks about Brahman even in Gurbani.

Where spring, the lord of seasons reigneth, there the unstruck music sounds of itself,

I am a sacrifice to You, O my True Guru.

There, where millions of Krishnas stand with hands folded,

Bhagat Kabir ji / Raag Gauri / / Guru Granth Sahib ji - Ang 325

Raamaanand Jee, First House:

For many years, I practiced penance and intense meditation at Kaashi;

ਰਾਮਾਨੰਦ ਸੁਆਮੀ ਰਮਤ ਬ੍ਰਹਮ ॥

ਨਾ ਹਮ ਹਿੰਦੂ ਨ ਮੁਸਲਮਾਨ ॥

ਪੂਜਨ ਚਾਲੀ ਬ੍ਰਹਮ ਠਾਇ ॥

One day, a desire welled up in my mind.

Sant Kabir was staunchly against cow slaughter.

Kabir (a weaver)

The views of Kabir are very much in parallel to the Advaita philosophy and it is obvious that as the disciple of Ramanandacharya he will carry forward with his chosen NIRGUN BHAKTI.

He who has highest Bhakti of Deva (God), just like his Deva, so for his Guru (teacher),

ਜਿਨਿ ਸਕਲ ਬਿਕਲ ਭ੍ਰਮ ਕਾਟੇ ਮੋਰ ॥

How can people understand You, when they are entranced by Maya? ||1|| Pause ||

ਅਬ ਕਹੁ ਰਾਮ ਕਵਨ ਗਤਿ ਮੋਰੀ ॥

Kabeer: O worthless mortal, do not lose the Naam, the Name of the Lord.

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To him who is high-minded, these teachings will be illuminating.

The Saadh Sangat, the Company of the Holy, is heaven. ||4||10||

So in the same spirit Kabir finds pilgrimages to holy cities futile as his mind is fixated on Rama!

He accepted even women (Sursuri and Padywati) as disciples. Bhagat Pipa and Dhanna were Rajput and Jat who were also his disciples.

I have taken the One Formless Lord into my heart; I humbly worship Him there. ||3||

ਤਬ ਲਗੁ ਹੋਇ ਨਹੀ ਚਰਨ ਨਿਵਾਸੁ ॥੩॥

Shvetashvatara Upanishad (6.23)

Ramananda accepted disciples without discriminating against anyone by gender, class or caste and they included even people from humble origins like

ਗੁਰ ਪੀਰ ਮਿਲਿ ਖੁਦਿ ਖਸਮੁ ਪਛਾਨਾ ॥੫॥੩॥

ਰਾਮਾਨੰਦ ਜੀ ਘਰੁ ੧

CONCLUSION:

Hari is in the East, Allah is in the West.

Here ਰਾਮੈ is Rama and not just lord. Kabir died chanting the name of Rama DESPITE him not finding any result of penances done in holy cities in his previous birth. Another example to show how much Kabir valued personal devotion to Rama in his own NIRGUN style.

He does not dwell at the Lord's Feet. ||3||

Now tell me, Lord, what will my condition be?

As mentioned above Guru Arjan Dev was talking from the perspective Sant Kabir whose views we have discussed much earlier here. We know that Sant Kabir continuing in the Ramanandi Sampradaya went further away from the mainstream ritualistic Hinduism and was journeying more towards a SEAMLESS Dharma.

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ਜਿਉ ਜਲ ਛੋਡਿ ਬਾਹਰਿ ਭਇਓ ਮੀਨਾ ॥

Where millions of Shivas are lost in contemplation, where millions of Indras dwell in the sky,

ਪੂਜਾ ਕਰਉ ਨ ਨਿਵਾਜ ਗੁਜਾਰਉ ॥

I ground up sandalwood, along with several fragrant oils.

For him Dharma was beyond everything physical including the desire for heaven because was fully into the NIRGUN . The last verse shows that according to him the company of the enlightened Sadhus is heaven which is again a typical teaching of Sanatana Dharma.

Bhakti movement began in South (Tamil Nadu to be precise) and slowly spread to Northern parts of India. This movement was extremely popular because of its simple fundamentals which could be understood by even commonfolk. Vaishnavism, Shaivism etc… were already connecting with commonfolk from a long time and this Bhakti movement reinforced it by making the devotee feel a personal connection with the deity.

ਏਕੋ ਸੇਵੀ ਅਵਰੁ ਨ ਦੂਜਾ ॥੨॥

The divergence of Kabir’s views from Vedanta is seen in the fact that he fully opposed religious symbolism of ALL KINDS and not just IDOLS.

यस्य देवे परा भक्तिः यथा देवे तथा गुरौ । तस्यैते कथिता ह्यर्थाः प्रकाशन्ते महात्मनः प्रकाशन्ते महात्मन इति ।

I serve the One Lord, and not any other. ||2||

ਬ੍ਰਹਮ is Brahm i.e the Brahman of vedanta but it gets interpreted as an all-pervading lord god.

Ramanandacharya’s teachings were centered on pure and personal connection with the God Rama and didn’t believe in any kind of formal ritualism. He used the common vernacular language instead of Sanskrit so that everyone could understand.

ਕਤ ਜਾਈਐ ਰੇ ਘਰ ਲਾਗੋ ਰੰਗੁ ॥

All the men and women of the world are His living forms.

ਪੂਰਬ ਜਨਮ ਹਉ ਤਪ ਕਾ ਹੀਨਾ ॥੧॥

The Sant Sampraday of Sikh panth integrates the warrior spirit of the Nihangs and Khalsa, the service of Seva panth and the renunciation of Udasi/Nirmala saints.

ਅਲਹ ਰਾਮ ਕੇ ਪਿੰਡੁ ਪਰਾਨ ॥੪॥

Sikhism is fundamentally rooted in BHAKTI tradition and thus ultimately in Sanatana Dharma. There is no doubt about it despite what modern McSikh acrobatics try to claim otherwise

Bhagat Kabir ji / Raag Sriraag / / Guru Granth Sahib ji - Ang 92

With inadequate devotion, how can anyone swim across? ||4||

Sikhism is a NIRGUN path descending from the Sant Sampraday of Ramanandacharya and traces its ideas to VEDANTA!

There is my Lord self-revealed, and the scent of sandal and flowers dwells in those deeps.